Open Post: Maybe…


Dear Respected Lacrosse Journalists,

As Thailand Lacrosse begin their second season, I can not help but notice that when I look back, I see that not a single one of you really covered them.  Never mind that… why wasn’t Thailand Lacrosse made any of your top ten lacrosse stories of 2010? All I see are SCANDALS that happen to be lacrosse related, and they only shine more negative light toward lacrosse. Where I come from, that’s not how you want to introduce lacrosse (or anything) that’s new to the general public; by showing the negative side of it.  Most of the scandals are not even directly related to lacrosse, but by you covering it (alongside a hundred other mainstream news outlets) you helped put the word “lacrosse” next to “scandal” yet again. It’s NOT journalism, it’s called being a “headline whore”.  Chasing any story; good or bad, just to get more people to read your respective “news” outlet… that’s not helping to Grow the Game.

Now, let’s go back to Thailand.

Why isn’t Thailand on your top ten story list of 2010?  What kind of lacrosse or journalistic “barometer” do you all use that tells you Thailand Lacrosse IS NOT worthy news to be covered, or even worth mentioning?  I kept thinking over and over, what did Thailand lacrosse do (or didn’t do) that made you all pass them over for a useless middle of the season high school scouting report, or the coverage of some beer league. Then I remembered a video that I saw a while back on YouTube:

Then it became cleared to me…Team Thailand, don’t blame the journalists.Just repeat the following after me:

Maybe it was our fault.

Maybe they never started a team in a country where lacrosse had never been played before.

Maybe they think it’s easy to land blue chip sponsors in a country that never heard of lacrosse.

Maybe putting a team together in 5 months to beat a 13 year old program is not quick enough.

Maybe defeating Hong Kong twice in one year is not enough for a first year program.

Maybe securing our own home stadium, and a practice field, is just not impressive enough.

Maybe there is more than one national team that practices all year round like we do.

Maybe we don’t have enough players that play college lacrosse, or can shoot behind the back.

Maybe what we do does’t fit into other people’s “development country” category.

Maybe we were confirmed too quickly by the FIL, instead of taking three years to do so.

Maybe we just need to work twice as hard as we did this past year.

Maybe they expected more.


No more “Maybe” or “What if” at the end of this year, play your own game nothing else matter…  After all my dear Journalist, these guys did not play for your approval. They played the game for themselves, and their country. It’s your duty as a journalist, and to the sport of lacrosse to cover them regardless of your reservation about this team. So in conclusion, I want to leave you all with this video below for Team Thailand to carry with them into their 2011 season.

Respectfully yours,



More on the International Lacrosse Scene:

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  1. Maybe Lacrosse Magazine or Inside Lacrosse should come out and say, they don’t care about international lacrosse beyond team USA, and team Canada.

  2. Or maybe Thailand Lax shouldn’t have hired MLL ringers who are NOT Thai + half a dozen of other MLL players who are NOT Thai to dress in Thai uniform and play against Korea…maybe those 2 games would have actually meant something with REAL Thais playing…

  3. Really…? Let me try to understand what you just wrote correctly, you said:

    “They HIRED MLL “ringers” + another 6 “regular” MLL players to play Korea”


    1. Sean Lindsay and Chazz Woodson were the only 2 MLL players who too part in ONE of their game. And they VOLUNTEERED not hired by the TLA, go back and check on that.

    2. Number of TLA’s Development Officers FOR 2011 = 4 (2 haven’t been to Thailand yet) If we considered Sean and Chazz (and Kyle who wasnt even a part of TLA yet) as “ringers” you’re still 6 MLL players short for 2011

    3. Thailand played HONG KONG both games in 2010 (Not Korea)

    4. The only game Sean and Chazz played, they scored 2 goals a piece. Hong Kong (non-citizen) “ringer” scored 4 goals for Hong Kong. Using your reasoning, taking those goals out Thailand still beat HK 6-3 (The real final score was 10-7).

    5. How many other “national team” had more that half “Americapean” on their team? France had a Japanese former national player on their team for the world game. Follow your logic, several teams would moved down from their 2010 world ranking (including Australia).

    But I don’t blame you, since your misinformed help proved my point. That there isn’t a proper coverage of team Thailand, but it isn’t excusable for the “hate”. If you’re not going to help expanding the sport like these guys, don’t be a dead weight.

    • The person above may have gotten some facts wrong, however, I did draw out an important point from his post that the program doesn’t seem to focus on building a solid group of home grown players. It seems to rely on kids who are playing lax abroad as well as foreign professional players to show up to these games. Could you please explain what your future plans are with the team and how you are planning to make it sustainable.

      A second point I would like to bring up is that lax is expensive within itself and tagging on all the international traveling cost etc,. making it a sport exclusively accessible to the elites. You preach about expanding the sport so I was wondering how and/or are you even reaching out to the local Thai communities who may not have the chance or the money to play? Or are you mainly focusing on current players and buying equipments.

      Lastly, can you clarify what it means to be a “national” team as well as if there are rules about bringing foreign players onto a national team.

      • I think I can answer that..

        We’re dedicated to established the foundation for growing lacrosse in Thailand, which we use the national team as a promotional tools to the general public. On top of that since January of 2010 TLA have arranged so that there are minimum of 2 days of field time for the team AND those who want to learn how to play lacrosse all year round. Since then, we’ve have over 50 new people who never touch a game of lacrosse before, 4 of which were good enough to play at the game against HK in October… Which is extremely rare considering they’ve only know about the game 3-4 months prior to the game. And for them to be able to play along side, Hong Kong players who at the very least been playing for a year or two is quite an achievement.

        Even though the people who are playing abroad made up the majority on the team, they are only the minority for the total lacrosse player in Thailand currently. We’re currently average at about 2-5 new people per months, and that’s not include the FIL clinic we’ll be hosting in March that we’ll be inviting 1,000 HS students to attend. So I would have to disagree with you about that we’re not focus on building a home grown talents. Since what we have been doing thus far is contrary to what most believe.. partly because no one bother to find out about how we (or other countries) are doing in this aspect. And that due to lack of the “actual” interest in expanding sport, or any coverage of Thailand lacrosse like LAS network is doing.

        Thailand “local” communities is not only made up of the “have not” citizen, there are several classes of people. Some of which CAN afford to play without the need to be the “elites”, just like in the U.S. Just because our country is classified as a 3rd world country doesn’t mean that everyone are dirt poor and can barely put food on the table. Lacrosse is an expensive sport because most people choose it that way, there are team that make do with a hand-me-down equipment or the cheaper stuff. It’s always about the newest stuff on the market, when the people who just starting the sport doesn’t need a 500 dollars set ups… that’s an american kids mentality.

        People often make a mistake of pointing finger at people who can’t afford it as the roots of the problem why the sport is not growing. When it’s the lacrosse companies who keep raising the price of equipments, and not providing the equipments for the “lower bracket” of people who wants to play lacrosse. That being said, because of the way we market the national team. We were able to land the supports of the sponsors in Thailand who help support the cost of these equipments. Also the national players who are considered as “elites” actually helps out by donating their equipment to the development program when the new stuff arrives for the team. Or instead of using the money for their own traveling for game, they pay their own way and divert the funding for the team toward lacrosse development.

        By the way, the international traveling is just for the national team, and not just every time we want to play a team we just fly out. We’ve plan to host 2 more event in Thailand to get the masses to learn more about lacrosse, and the ticket to the event is FREE. As for local competitions… the TLA have put in place a plan to create the league to create more local competitions, and interest for the sport. Which we hope will help trigger down further to the younger Thais, people may say it’s only gonna be for “the have” and not the rest of Thailand… I agree, but we gotta start somewhere rather than say “it wont happen” or say “uncle” even before trying.

        We can only do so much on our end, as long as people over in the U.S. who can actually do something doesn’t know about things that are going on in Thailand (or any countries). Then the growth is still going still gonna go in the “snail pace”. Guys like Connor, Jeff or Tumbas are doing their part. Chazz, Sean, Kyle, and P.T. are doing theirs to help out Thailand, at this early stage should be demonized for not being Thai. We’re blessed and truly appreciate their help, and considered them in a way “Thai” for their dedication to help our country.

        I hope this help…

  4. Good point, even if only ONE guy on a team is Thai, and the rest of the team are from the entire Baltimore Bayhawks’ roster. You know what? THAT’s is still a news. The fact that their isn’t ANY coverage of them, as if they don’t exist is the issue here.

  5. Holy Handgrenades Batman… Its a team, this battle if its a pureblood Thai team versus a ringer team is moot. They are growing the game in a new country, respect the effort and congratulate their accomplishments.

  6. This must be the flame baiter schmuck that’s been attacking Thailand on Inside Lacrosse forum. Thailand will not give you contact of their sponsor so you can go ask those guys for money, so you trash them? real low Mucker, or whatever your name is.

    • This guy is a scammer, he’s tried to scam companies to get money that suppose to be for international program into his own pocket. Thailand doesn’t play ball so this is his respond… shameful.

  7. Good one, hope their fate would change this year. Just win a lot of games, they can’t ignore you forever.

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